>> yeah. maybe too simple to put it this way, but people believe bachman is a pure conservative candidate, but might have electability questions. people think mitt romney may be electable, but might not be as pure as they want him to be. rick perry i think hopes to come in right in between those two. he could be electable and conservative. >> he's going to talk about jobs. he's going to talk about what he has done in texas to create jobs and i think that is something that no other candidate is going to have. >> bret: jeff, i asked about this, texas governor perry's announcement and the debate and it was interesting to hear some of the candidates react to that and how they're going to react to him in this race. >> without a doubt, it's going to -- mitt romney is not going to sit on the side lines here and be his low key self. he is going to go after him. either publicly or privately and really ferret it out. they spent a lot of time investigating in his record and things. so he's going to be an immediate