why you say they shouldn't pay their fair shire owe. >fair share. >> poor people are not poor because rich people are rich. if we're going to have discussions about how we gain revenue in our national coffers, how we spend that money, then we should have honest discussion. that's not what this president is doing. what this president does -- >> i think he is. this is a fundraiser for campaign purposes, and these people aren't being forced to attend. they are delighted to be with the president on his 50th birthday. >> wait a minute. i want to make one more point, juan. you can't say that when the ones that will have the best marginal benefit to change the current system of these entitlements are the very poor that he keeps pretending this government entitlement program is working for. if we're going to have honest dialog about what's broken in this country so we can fix it, then we need to have an honest discussion. number one, the latinos, the very youngest, this will crash on their pay. number two, the african