obama pretty much a captive of the far left that, you know, despite all the evidence, and all the hard times america is going through, continues to hawk about spending more and cutting less. and i don't know. maybe the president is a captive of those people. what do you say? >> i wouldn't say captive. i would say his orientation is liberal anyway. but, look, i think one thing that may be in the back of his mind, is that he may fear a liberal challenge for the nomination. everybody today would say oh, it can't happen. but did you notice that senator bernie sanders from vermont last week. >> bill: we noticed. they might be able to give him a hard time. no candidate that's close. >> not going to beat him. >> bill, the question is, do you end up spending some of europe time and effort and money fighting a candidate in the primary even if you are certain of winning? >> listen, i said this from the jump and i wrote it in my book pinheads and patriots.