instead of $10 trillion in new debt it will onlye 7 in ten years. i don't know if the american people undstand that. >> i get this. this is less than ideal. owe bambina doesn't think it is ideal. you and i and the reiths of the rep -- rest of the republicans don't think it's ideal either. let's not lose sight of the victory. the unemployment number is worse today than it was in december of last year when obama came and he agreed not to increase taxes on the upper middle class. >> you are calling this a victory tonight. >> sean, you are going to -- harry reid didn't want his twenty-some odd vulnerables voting on it. >> we have two big victories today. i understand it's not ideal. i understand pragmatism doesn't make for great tv but let not