to like the boehner bill. i mean, as we've talked about before, i mean, there are reasons -- it never gets to entitlements. there are all sorts of reasons that people would oppose it, but at this moment, in that capitol, he's not focused on those arguments, and he's trying to get people focused on them to focus on the actual outcome, what happens now. >> bret: the other thing in the boehner bill is a commission responsible for coming up for $1.8 trillion in additional cuts in entitlements, a question mark for a lot of folks on both sides of the aisle. part of the debate has been whether the ratings agencies will downgrade the u.s., the credit rating anyway. today s&p had a conference call, and here's a -- it's a paraphrase really of a quote. question was $4 trillion number has been circulating to stabilize the debt gdp ratio. it comes from boles simpson, embraced by president obama and representative paul ryan. actually $4 trillion won't do the trick to stabilize debt-to-gdp, but would take you