speaker boehner and tim geithner were talking about treasury secretary talking about this morning and how would you enforce the idea that if had you a commission with 12 members in place and said we want you to reform medicare medicaid and social security we want you to make these big cuts. what do you say to them if they don't make the cuts? what have we seen? even here on the edge of the precipice, these guys don't make a deal. why would they make a deal down the road you? are going to need some degree of distrust. people holding hands. both sides of the extremes blocking this deal. no tax cuts on the one hand and other hand no cuts to entitlements. that's not reasonable. >> did you hear the triggers they were talking about. trigger for the republicans was going to be the decoupling of the bush tax cuts and for -- they wanted the trigger for the democrats to be the obama mall individual mandate. i mean. >> that's the thing. what kind of mechanisms would you have? >> thank you, panel. see you all next week. and we'll be right back. @@