democrats, you talk about the white house, the democrats flew over to the white house to say what are you talking about? you are willing to make significant cuts in terms of medicare, medicaid, social security, you are putting our political fortunes at risk. this is not what we want. you saw move on. you saw aarp. you saw afl-cio. >> ceiu. engaged to zoom on congress can w. phone calls and lobbying to say stop the president from giving up everything to the republicans. one last point here. you heard the speaker of the house say we moved the goal post in terms of a president who doesn't want to make significant cuts who is now willing to make significant cuts, why don't republicans just say we have won this fight. it's time to move on and not push the country over the edge. >> chris: that's one. we will take a break here. we will continue the conversation. one of the interesting things that came out from both geithner and boehner is the grand bargain.