house. he he was also speaking to house democrats. this idea you that you and the are working on two stage process trillion dollars in cuts. debt increase until early next year and then a commission to find more cuts and also, if it's approved. raise the debt limit further is unaccepted. >> there is going to be a two-stage process. it's not physically possible to do all of this in one step. having said that, chris, i know the president is worried about his next election. but my god, shouldn't would he be worried about the country? we have got a budget deficit of $1.5 trillion. we are borrowing 42 cents on every dollar we spend. we have a 14.5 trillion-dollar national debt. it is time to get serious about stopping the spending here in washington, d.c. >> chris: so are you suggesting that you might pass a short-term plan in the house and, in effect, dare the senate, dare the white house to block it? >> chris, this is about what's