brought it up, brought it up and insisted it on it. >> makes me believe if the administration backs down from the final 400 and says stick with the 800 that boehner might come back to the table. this question of whether or not a short-term patch, even if it's six long months, really still keeps default alive and that against to show up in the market, is really a problem for republicans. they read the polling that came out last week that americans are increasingly afraid of default and those are rising 70% against raising the debt ceiling and now a plurality for raising the debt ceiling. >> and the republicans also don't want to get this past the election? >> i think republicans also want to get is past the election and freshman said i don't want to take one of these votes, don't want to take three of them. >> chris: and bill, back to the grand bargain, as i pointed out to boehner, a lot of republicans say no tax increases, that has to do with baselines and all kinds of stuff and here you have