the past 13 days. they may need a little assistance but within maybe an hour or two, they should be pretty good to walk around and then sometime in this hour, we expect they will get off of the astronaut vehicle, transport vehicle and then on to the ground itself, walk around the tarmac underneath the big space shuttle atlantis, take a look at it. take a look, you know, the first thing they'll want to see, did any of the heat shields break off the carbon tiles? and then, you know, there's a sense of wow, this is it. this was it. and it was incredible life memory that they'll never, ever forget for sure and then there's going to be nasa administrator will walk out on to the tarmac with commander ferguson and then there's a big post mission which, of course, because this is the final mission and the entire 30-year program. it's a news conference for the end of the era and the space shuttle program as a whole.