from texas, the governor of texas is not likely to win california or encourage, honest answer. anything to add? >>guest: no. that says it all. maybe if christie is on the ticket we take new jersey. >>stuart: i live in new jersey i understand this. the left will go after him because governor perry is a practicing christian, evangelical and that makes him a target. >>guest: well, it does with certain segment of society, but there is a much larger segment of society that appreciates the social conservative side of rick perry and at the end of the day it is a mass you have plus, not a negative. >>stuart: you have met him personally? >>guest: never. >>stuart: why so strongly, you are a vigorous supporter. >>guest: i looked at the field as it is and we have a strong field and most of those in that field could beat obama in november of 2012 but i expected