the president said that the mcconnell plan and harry reid plan, that they are working on is still on the table as a last-ditch effort. but he seemed somewhat positive about this. we'll talk a little whao*eul with little while with abunch og major garrett about what all this haoepbs and where we go from here in the effort to raise the debt ceiling by that august 2nd deadline. the on going hearings that we are watching for the "news of the world" newspaper in britain with rebekah brooks testifying continues. and we want to take you back there for the time being. then we'll get back into the debt discussion with senator tom coburn here a little while from now. for now let's go back here. >> i can't comment on what who know it, when they know it and how they knew it. i can only tell the committee what i knew while i was editor of "american's newsroom" and editor of the sun and my actions