were lost. >> i don't know. >> [intelligible ] >> sorry? >> the emails have since been retrieved. the defense team still hasn't received them. any ideas why? >> i think actually the clarification from the information commissioner was in fact that what had happened was as the editor of the scottish "news of the world" had made a comment during the trial which had been interpreted as you are saying now, but actually when he looked into it and asked news international for an explanation it was actually a problem with the -- with our suppliers in india, and so there was no such retrieval. >> have you been in contact with andy coulson during the sheraton case? >> i think andy was -- andy coulson was in downing street during the sheraton case so i would have had. >> did you have direct contact