>> the interesting thing is the perspective from the debate, this won't pass congress is it puts revenue on the table. not many republicans are willing to do that. democrats will go back to that and say even tom coburn is willing to do it. >> bret: the tax code is restretchtureed and close it down. the republicans haven't been opposed to that from the beginning. if there is a major change, they said they would close the loopholes. >> right from the perspective of the short-term production now it's difficult argument. they are willing to talk about it auz a separate discussion but they are focused on the cuts. i think tom coburn's message isn't a good one for most of the republicans right now who are very, very opposed to going anything against grover norquist americans for tax reform pledge. >> bret: you say it's too late to begin? >> maybe. >> bret: juan? >> it's difficult for republicans or democrats to look at the cuts seriously