>> i cannot guarantee they can go out on august 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. there may not be the money in the coffers to do it. >> you see a lot of conflicting reports, because the board of trustees says the program has a 2.6 trillion dollar trust fund ready to go. why is president obama playing with the livelihoods or is he. joining us dennis kucinich. is the president playing politics with the social security? where do you stand. >> no one wants to go into default and social security is an entirely separate issue. as you reported the trust fund has a surplus and it's solid through 2037 without any changes whatsoever. it's not wise to conflate the social security trust fund with the u.s. deficit right now because it could actually end up causing seniors not to spend money, which would further slow down the economy. >> clayton: so, let me be