>> greta: were they adamant on guilty, certain company >> with one there was an uncertainy one was add man. >> greta: what later changed that -- not guilty? >> i never with -- with that person i didn't get into that, it changed -- >> greta: sooner or much later? >> much later. the next day when we did our post votes is when that came out. we realized, the indictments 4 through 7, there was direct evidence on that. >> greta: the lying. >> that was the lying that was a no-brainer 12-0 guilty. we knocked those out right away. because the evidence was there. we get into 1 through 3 that's where the issue is raised. as far as the first one with murder in the first, with the 10-2 votes after going through