you know that smell, the father and the mother and the tow truck guy smelled it. >> they were wrong. >> judge jeanine: they were wrong? >> and there were 7 other people who didn't smell it. a terrible odor. they are different for different people. there is no unique smell of death. there is a pungent bad odor >> judge jeanine: anna sigga, is this a csi, where if you don't have dna evidence you get away with it? >> this is real life and it is realistic and it is unrealistic to expect in a case like this because that body was secreted, stashed away in a wet woody, muddy swamp that when you are never going to be able to get those -- not because the police couldn't find it. it is because it wasn't there. it doesn't mean you get away with it. you have to use other types of evidence. >> judge jeanine: that's true. bob massi, i will come to you.