geraldo said, martha is conventional wisdom around the courthouse is a swift verdict when charges are this serious is usually a positive thing for a defense, because you'd like to think if 12 people are going to condemn someone to possible death they are going to take a little bit more type. they haven't even deliberated 12 hours. martha: anyone you discuss this with outside the courtroom. as geraldo points out these are the only people who matter these 12. i was surveying people all weekend. people are all over the map on this. that is why i'm surprised this is happening so quickly. they've been held a longtime. i think juries do an excellent job of taking their job very seriously from my personal experience, but i just -- it's hard to imagine how they were able to wrap this up so quickly, honestly. >> i think to arthur's point i think they have taken the murder one and taken it off the table. i think they took an acquittal off the table and took the murder one off the table. they threw out the high and low. >> compromise verdict. >> i agree that, yes, you're going to really take your time