the united states. >> i could not stand it, i found it appalling. it was about race. >> sean: wait a minute, where did you get that about race? >> at its core it was about race. >> sean: no, think it was about he doesn't like obama's policies. everybody watching the show if you say can i have your birth certificate can get it. >> how do you go from not liking somebody's policies to saying maybe you weren't born here? there's a disconnect. i think trump was going from attacking obama on policy talking about china. the next day he woke up and decided i'm going to be a buyer. >> sean: it never was my issue. after a while i was odd. he could have released it in the beginning. >> i think all of us are saying it tapped into something beyond public policy dispute. the legacy of that is the toxic environment that michelle bachmann now finds herself in >> i don't think you blame mock for -- [ talking over each other ]