>> gregg: welcome back, we're outdoors, a beautiful day on the plaza on avenue of the americas. and, you know, americans love to grill on independence day which is coming up, and the barbecue plate does not have to turn into a diet disaster. >> heather: you plan on grilling? >> gregg: i am mr. grill master! >> heather: i bet you are! we are turning to men's journal for barbecue advice for the big holiday, though gregg doesn't need it and, the senior health editor of men's health. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> we thing of grilling being the healthier alternative and as gregg said it can turn into a diet disaster, right? >> grilling is healthy, if you choose lean cuts of meats and vegetables but most americans don't, they love to grill hamburgers an sausages and hot