>> it dousen't wash. you raise the most important points. taxpayers are paying more in the way of property taxes. we saw in two dozen states public sector unions fighting for increases totaling $29 billion. these guys running these pension funds don't have the market skills of hedge fund managers. but they are specking to get rates of return that have been high in the market. the other issue is you look at cities like buffalo that has the same number of government workers since 1960 when half the population has left. and you see cities like dayton, ohio, one in 200020 homes are bay can't. who are you going to tax if nobody is there. you saw it in maryland. alisyn: the firefighter numbers