guy like president barack obama and a person like rick perry would be -- >> chris: george w. bush extreme in what way? >> he wouldn't be the first candidate for president who thought that secessino was a good policy but probably would be one that ended up losing. >> chris: you would target him as -- >> i think no matter who the candidate is, pawlenty, romney, perry, bachman, this is about the economy. who is better for your family's future. i think this are extreme elements of what rick perry has done in the past besides just -- >> chris: the biggest job producing state in the country. >> but on the bottom on education. on the bottom on the unemployed and a lot of different things. >> chris: we have to leave it there to be continued. thank you pabl, se panel, see l next week. check out panel plus on "fox news sundayfoxnewssunday.com. we will post the video before noon eastern time, up next, we hear from you.