sustainable packaging practices. >>. and a new report out that only 20% of fourth graders, 17% of eighth graders and is it 11% of high school seniors are proficient in history. why do students continue to log behind in joining me now is the author of a chance to make history, wendy kop. great to see you. >> great to see you. >> america sees the results and think, my goodness, we are supposed to be the most powerful country in the world and yet our kids don't know history? why? >> we see everyday in our work, and we work in the most underresourced communities in our country, and we just see daily evidence that when daily are met with high expectations and the supports they need to, you know, excel, they do excel. and they excel according to the highest standards. >> what you are actually saying then, if i'm reading you correctly, is that sometimes it doesn't have to do with so much