we can return to the children and era tax pop is we might see that growth tim pawlenty wants to see. people who have money are just sticking it in the bang because they don't have incentive to invest it because they will get taksds on it. martha: let's go to chris plants. is it effective? does it work? >> the debate is myth represented in thi r -- the debe is misrepresented. the republicans discussed issues in a civil way. which is why democrats were left at a loss when it comes to their response. we talk about major issues americans ought to be confronting. but aren't. and this little tim many i lit e film, they must change the subject and attack and ridicule.