have said -- and this man who asked this question, lars, let me put this to you, implicit in his question was, you know, i'm sure president obama you understand, and i'm sure people went over this with you when you launched this program that it's very tough to get through a lot of the red tape when you actually try to put this money to work. >> oh, yes, that's why i think this is baloney, because number one, of the 860 billion only 30 billion went into infrastructure, roads, bridges and other forms of infrastructure. the rest of it basically went into the pockets of unions, martha. what the man was saying to the president was. >> lars, you're actually wrong. >> hold on rob. rob, let me finish. what he was saying was, mr. president government regulations are keeping us from getting business going. the president keeps loading regulations on, that's hurting our ability to get back to work. and most of that money, rob, 5% went for infrastructure, the rest went as political payoffs. frankly i think president obama