the importance of the testimony relating to the chloroform is that that's the state's bridge to first degree murder of. they've got no problem with the decompositional he event and letting evidence in through lay witnesses but the importance is to get forensic science and forensic evidence in that supports their first degree murder claim. that's the chloroform. jenna: and how do you think chloroform was used in this murder? >> well, what the state is alleging is that casey anthony used chloroform to knock out caylee, then go do whatever it is that she wanted to do. the issue here is this is the first time that these type of tests have ever been attempted to be introduced into evidence in the united states, and florida as well. jenna: do you think she's getting an adequate defense, do you think she's getting the representation she needs against these claims that are based on evidence, as you mentioned, and new tests, new tests that are being introduced into the