you know that. come on. >> i'm gonna defend him because i think he asked really good questions. you remember the moment when it as all new? >> bill: no beef with the questions. it was the condescension that i don't think he meant. but it came across that way. >> all right. so we are talking about the sarah palin interview the famous one. you picked up? >> i want you to watch left arm how itouts -- jets out. you see this. >> yes. >> that is territorial power. oh no you don't. >> not my friend. >> exactly it. she is standing up for her colleagues. that stands taking up more room it's powerful. you then answer her question and bounce there is a little bounce. the bounce indicate that you feel like you just one upped her. so, you know, here we have this ongoing struggle. it was very good. she is a powerful woman. >> absolutely. no question about that with oprah off tv now, i think she is