evangelical christian. now, it takes a certain kind of person to see what you did as disrespectful after he does all of that it's embarrassing, irrational, rip critical and it's not -- for a guy who fancies himself smart, it's not too smart on his part. >> here's the key question. this is almost like i was juan and mary katharine discussion. when you reach -- when you jump the shark, all right, as they say in show biz, and you get to a point where what you say is just flat out as you said clinically insane, all right? what happens then? >> nothing. >> bill: but it used not to be that way. >> right. >> it used to be when a commentator, remember, jackie mason on the ed sullivan show when he was doing the finger business. he didn't work for five years after that. >> right. >> bill: it used to be you were held accountable. >> couple of things. one, we live in a different america today. jackie mason, interestingly,