expressing support for ryan's willingness to at least try to reform medicare. neither was aware that the camera was rolling. take a listen you'll see the former president in silhouette on the left of your screen, congressman ryan on screen right. >> i'm glad we won this race in negotiate. i hope the democrats don't use it as an excuse to do nothing. >> i think it's going to sing into paralysis is what's going to happen. we knew we were putting ourselves out there. you've got to get out there. you've got to get this thing moving. shannon: let's talk about that moment and what it means with simon rozenburg a former campaign adviser for president clinton and president of the think tank ndn and ben ferguson a conservative radio host. welcome to you, gentlemen. >> thanks for having us. shannon: i don't in that the republicans can get too excited. once president clinton hit the stage he wasn't exactly endorsing ryan's plan. >> no of course not, because this is one of those issues where fear informatio mongeringo