dan said he's changing positions. i wish he'd change positions on health care. i wish he'd come out and said, look, we tried to do something good in massachusetts, if hasn't worked out as intended and what we promised income. and i think he'd be in a much better position if he'd been honest about the practice. >> one other, the book "no apology" a stubborn man, although he's smart as well. >> paul: can he overcome romney care in massachusetts? >> yet to be seen. certainly if he were the republican nominee, much harder to campaign against barack obama. >> kim, among the other republican candidates so far. tim pawlenty seems to be the most serious. how do you size up his campaign so far? >> again, tim pawlenty, this comes back to the name recognition part. that's his hardest challenge right now, not a lot of people know him for the former governor of minnesota.