you've got to start with something, you start with the '67 borders, and then you say, well, we're going to swap 200 acres, or we're going to swap five square miles or whatever. you have no idea where the border's going to end up after you have a negotiation between the sides. rick: but if that's where you start, ambassador, where do you go there there? it seems like he's selling the farm right out of the gate, you know, giving up a little bit too much, too soon before they even sit down with the palestinians who are in a nice little cozy relationship with a terror organization that doesn't even recognize israel. >> yeah. that is certainly the position the israelis feel is taking place, and there is certain logic to that that once you've established a starting point, that it is prejudicial in favor of the palestinian position. but in the many different negotiations i've had with the israelis and the palestinians over a period of years, i've never seen them shy about making