yet with respect to anybody else. my supposition is somebody knew. >> chris: defense secretary gates today in his first news conference since the bin laden raid expressing his thoughts about pakistani protection over the years for the al-qaeda leader. we're back now with the panel. a.b. while gates expressed some suspicion about the pakistanis, he does not support the idea of cutting off aid to that government. saying they have already paid a high price. let's watch. >> if i where are in pakistani's shoes, i would say i already paid a price. i have been humiliated. i've been shown that the americans can come in here and do this with impunity. we have to be -- i think we have to recognize that they see a cost in that. price that has been paid.