is terribly wrong on his assessment of representative ryan's plan. it is good fiscally sound and courageous. we have to make sure that we are understanding that ryan's budget is a big difference as opposed to the obama budget, which has us on the road to bankruptcy. ryan's plan saved us 1.2 billion dollars everyday over a decade,รง as compared to obama's big spending government over reach more indebtness plan that he has us on. >> sean: i'm not sure he was apologizing because the media was attacking him. i did interview him monday. he said i'm saying we need to take that plan and make sure the american people are onboard. maybe find ways to improve it. he sees the need and has called for the need to reform medicare. that's something that he said for a number of years. i'm not putting up a defense