citizens who will be in a bad spot if we don't make the right moral choices in this. >>neil: why not an ad if we do nothing this what about those seniors now, who will face higher costs, higher deductibles, more responsibility for their own coverage, if we do nothing. this is the same group that will be affected by this national health plan that over the next decade is going to take half a trillion out of medicare. now, you could be right, it could be swept out for manage better and nighter but to say that any effort to bring in the growth of the program is like killing grandmother is wrong. >>guest: i am not saying an effort to address the challenges the program fateses are -- faces wrong, but what the republicans have thought of doing is privatizing medicare. that sundays good and you think private industry does a good job but my grandmother died at 96.