minutes, the five minutes he's doing the trade maybe then you're hurt, but if you're a long-term stockholder it doesn't affect you at all. >> what i had the stock for ten years and wanted to sell at that price and sell to my detriment because he had inside information that i did not have and that's illegal. >> but if you're going to sell anyway. >> he has no duty to you. >> fur if you're going to sell anyway. >> he has no duty to you. >> maybe not at that price. >> well. >> the good night at gomes had a duty to stock holders. >> he's going to j-a-i-l. >> a lot of people think it's a victimless claim here is why. you're going to sell the stock anyway, whether you sell it to raj, no matter what type of information he has you're making an independent decision and you were not selling it because he wanted to buy it, wanted to sell it and that's why a lot of this is a victimless crime. >> i want-- i chose to, i chose to sell