head in water and keep it down there. >> i don't know that is -- -- >> sean: apparently panetta and three former cia directors have said we got more intelligence from enhanced interrogation -- >> and most of it was bad. >> it is their bad karma, you do bad, bad things happen. none of these kamal jockeys ever should have started with us. this is what they get when they play with us. >> i see. we lose our moral standing. we break the law and it is fine -- we are going to be just like the "camel jockeys" right? i always wanted to be a mob guy and pretend like you do -- >> it is all acting. >> it is acting? >> yeah. >> okay. >> okay. >> sean: more with your long before a cummins diesel engine powered a ram truck.. it roared to life out here. and proved itself here,