how does this work for regular americans, my friend? i'm trying to figure it out but for me, the math is woolly, not just fuzzy. >> eric, you have to look at the plan that was introduced by the republican colleagues. the majority of the house. raid on the middle class. cutting domestic programs, only domestic programs. it impacts the young with the education cut, seniors with the healthcare cut. veterans, working families and small business. so it was not the sort of investment we need to move forward they were avoiding several of the other issues like going out and -- >> eric: representative, allow me. i apologize for cutting you off, sir. here it was. billed as going to be specifics deficit reduction plan. we have thought we were going to be filled with numbers and go exactly where the cuts were going -- going to see where the cults were being made. the only cut we can sink our teeth into and understand plain as day is the defense