students called bright star university. but gadhafi's this there, his forces are well dug in -- not gadhafi himself, but his loyalists are well dug in. they are confronted by a rebel column of 1500, 2000 fighters. very disorganized, very ill-trained but very heavily armed. the two are firing at each other. it is the very definition, jenna, of a stalemate. they're still fighting there today, so that now makes 72 hours where that is the front line. it's now about 135 miles from where i'm standing right now here in the rebel stronghold city of men dpaz si. and i don't think -- benghazi, and i don't think either side has the military muscle to break this impasse. so militarily here in the east i believe there is a stalemate. you mentioned misurata, the third largest city in libya where downtown the courageous residents have endured, now, a