>> you have to suspend them both. that's what the school is doing. there are several reports from other students who have been witnesses to this big kid bullying -- being bullied for a very long time. >> bill: for 15 minutes, when you do the investigation you know what? i want to get to you real quick 20 seconds each. my father when i was growing up my father said if they push you around, you fight back. you don't take that and let anybody do that to you. which is what that big kid is doing. >> my first line of defense is tell them to buzz off. if that doesn't work. have the guts to go to the teacher. if that doesn't work then you have to defend yourself. >> bill: i tell my kids come to me. i will go solve the problem and i will. you? >> i think -- seeing this gentle giant big kid say i'm not going to take it anymore. >> bill: hover and i are at odds today about everything. that kid could have killed the little kid. could have killed him. >> maybe he deserves it. >> bill: body slammed like that if that went down on that kid's head, fractured skull. >> have no idea how powerful he