keep you in business, as n.p.r. does. the thing about this tape, this guy schiller, he is not small potatoes. he was senior vice president at n.p.r. he's saying, we don't need -- n.p.r. would be better off it did not accept federal funding. and you have eric cantor coming out saying, right, so let's not appropriate it. >> there's a huge difference between having a nonprofit and getting government funds in the tens of millions of dollars per year, like n.p.r. does. i will not sit here and say that every 501c3 is getting money from the argument. that's ridiculous, nancy, and you know that. this is an organization that's getting money from taxpayers and trashing anyone with an opposite viewpoint. don't act like it's only the top and disconnected from reality. everybody working at n.p.r. believes the same thing as their leadership, or the mass