it. jenna: how high of a cost? >> right now, insurance is maybe 2 percent of his show's budget. when you have a star like this one, you're talking maybe 8 percent of an entire show's budget. jenna: it seems like a whole bunch. >> $10 million, that's a lot of money to pay but what charlie sheen can do is say tell you what, guys, we'll pay you an even higher premium, we'll pay you 10 million but if we go the whole season without messing up and finish it, you give us back almost all the money and a fee. that's the way it gets done. mark cuban, the billionaire, talking about a show for hg net, i e-mailed him, about the insurance costs, no answer yet, also the star can say tell you what, i'll cover part of the insurance. make it -- take it out of my salary, or if i do mess up, i'll be more culpable and have to pay back more. jenna: fe keeps saying i never messed up, i always showed up on time, the show always went on the air. >> that's right. jenna: so when it comes to actual risk -- >> actual risk. here's the thing, do you look at him now, even 20 years? let's look at the long term. i've got a chart. if you look at him since