>> how is that different from the unions trying to coerce a vote like going out to dinner or a fundraising event. >>guest: you are not supposed to accept a certain amount of money and there are lobbying rules. and that is for campaign funds, as well, and this is money that is going into their pockets to pay for, if it is true, to pay for the hotel bills. >>neil: and the wisconsin is a gulf-time job and we know they are not made a great deal. >>guest: and they are allowed to accept outside employment. >>neil: so at the least it does not pass the ick test. >>guest: it does not pass the ick test. is there theft involved? what would that be? the theft of time being taken away from the wisconsin taxpayers who are paying the