calculations be about $30 billion more in cuts, not 6.5. so is the president's math fuzzy at best? >> i think everybody is playing with the math right now. here is what we know, we have $50 billion difference between the democrats and republicans. that is large divide. i think everybody is going to have to give up something. the $61 billion in cuts is not going to past pass the senate and democrats counter with $10.5 billion cut, that is not going to go with the republicans. somebody has to give. you are are seeing the president engaging. democrats are saying, where are you? you have to show leadership. he seems to be stepping it up but we're not that much closer to a deal. >> gregg: to be fair, republicans are using some tricky math. they claim the total of proposed spending cuts is $102 billion but actually based on this