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kirsten powers and kind indicated columnist charles krauthammer. for secondly day we're getting into it. this is tough to swallow but those two statements from the budget director, one a couple weeks ago and one when he worked with president clinton are very different? >> what lew said ten years ago is true. the social security trust fund is a fiction. it's a fraud. it doesn't exist. it's a box in west virginia with a bunch of pieces of paper. when you have fica have taken out of paychecks it doesn't end up in the box. it goes to the treasury which spends it. it's been spent for the last 50 years. it no longer exists and when you and i retire is not going to be out of box, it will be from workers of that era who will be paying in. there is no fund. the system is pay as you go system. to pretend that these i.o.u.s is

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