they can hold them for a year. >> caller: we are greatly concerned for them and all of the people that are over there. and we wish we had an alternative. to get them out. but at the moment we don't. bill: as do we, hank, thanks for sharing what you know. >> caller: you are welcome. bill: out of seattle washington, our best to both couples now and where they are and certainly, the concern we have, you remember the guy on the mersk alabama and he was taken captive and the navy s.e.a.l.s went in and popped off the pirates. martha: heros in that story and one of the pirates was sentenced, recently, 15 years in prison and we'll continue to follow the story as they are from the u.s. in the meantime we have budget battle that is literally boiling over, chaos inside the state house and we have been watching it unfold in wisconsin's capital and how far do the unions plan to go for this, a man calling for extreme tactics joins us