enormous push-pack from the and beyonds and others. the unions like a monopoly operated system it works well for the adults. guaranteed client base. on the other hand in harlem, nobody can take those kids for granted any more. parents have choice. >> paul: some of those charter school operators have been trying to move to the westside of manhattan and they are aren'ting into resistance. not withstanding the positive result -- results they got in harlem. >> predictably so. people who have monopolys and a guaranteed client base -- don't like competition. the parents on the side are demanding this school be opened. they are lining up to get in it. there's probably going to be 100, 120 kids admitted and you will have 1200 the first year. parents are going to vote with their feet. this story has got to change because parents are not going to tolerate the results that is not going to change without