going on in these countries. >> sean: isn't it deeper? in the 9/11 commission report, i didn't agree with everything in the report. they've been at war with the west for a long time. even going back to the beginning of this regime when they held americans hostage for 444 days. they were declaring war the west. pretty bray act. i think they feared reagan when -- pretty brazen act. i think they feared reagan when he was inaugurated. >> i think the commission was right in that the jihadists have been waging this war not just of terrorism, but ideas. they've been able to deny the american public the understanding we were at war. how can we be confronting them if we didn't know they were against us that was the drama of 9/11. >> sean: we'll take a break. wanted to get to you guys on how women are treated under