is there property that is jointly owned? >> right. >> the fact that he is a convicted criminal is not in and of itself indicating of fraud. that's the condition of uscis. >> i'll give you 15 seconds to rebutt that. >> look, we're not in a position to say it's fraudulent or not. but the point is they agreed to get married. somebody proposed. we can't tell who. and they hadn't even met in person. now, we've got a big problem with marriage fraud and the public interest would not be served if she's able to spring them early and then he goes out and commits another crime. so in the end, we have to be very careful about giving, you know, marriage benefits when there appear to be objectively some real problems with what's going on here. >> all right. guys, you did an effective presenting both sides. thank you very much. what do you think? should she get a green card? e-mail us right now, friends at foxnews.com. meanwhile, he's the top dog of