the president even liked it. i don't know, that's not what i'm looking for in an interview with barack obama. i want him to come in without a tie and leave in a neck brace. when he is meeting o'reilly, i want him to dread it beforehand. i want him to sweat bullets in the middle of it and afterwards i want him to say to axelrod what did i just say? i was like a bumper jack on that log rolling thing to stay ahead of it. here is my thing with barack obama. it doesn't come down to whether i like him or not. the white or black thing? is he a good family man? none of that matters. i see this country as lean, mean, and i want the citizens to be self-reliant. he sees it as soft and he wants the citizens or he is willing to concede some of them can be dependent. that's where i differ. that's where i would have braced him on that. i would have said mr. president there is a big game later today. do you think at the end of the game the winning team should give the losing team enough of their points so that it's a tie because that's fair? that's what i would have hit him with. >> bill: the problem with that line of questioning, miller, is that in a philosophical