described it as people going a little berserk down there because what they're facing down there is potentially an inch orioo of frozen rain, sleet, turning into frozen rain, then another 3-4 inches of sleet on top of that, then maybe 6 inches of snow on top of that. virtually every governor in every state that even has a corner of their state involved in this has declared an emergency. in the chicago area, schools that have not already preemptively closed have basically said that we're going to be shutting down early today to get ready for this particular storm, and a lot of schools and public agencies are taking a look at shutting things down, the illinois state government, the legislature decided not to hold -- not to hold session because the travel will be too dangerous. bill: that's got to be a pretty big deal to shut down chicago and other parts of illinois. it's not like you guys are stranger to big storms, steve! >> no, not hardly. i mean, we had a storm of